Strategy won't fix an energy problem. LindaJoy Benn shares four pillars and simple daily tools to help business owners recover from burnout.
GROWTH PILLAR: Health & Wellness
WHO THIS IS FOR: SMB owners / Solopreneurs / Corporate escapees / Leaders building systems
WHAT THEY'LL GAIN: A simple way to spot burnout early, four pillars to rebalance, and daily tools to move from head to heart.
You don't have a strategy problem. You have an energy problem. Until you fix that, every plan you build keeps running on empty.
LindaJoy Benn is a holistic healer, trainer, and speaker with over 30 years in natural health and personal growth. She is the founder of the BENN Method Academy, built on four pillars: balance, energy, nurture, and nourish. In this conversation, she shares her own burnout recovery, from a full body shutdown back to energy and purpose. She explains Pellowah, an energy practice that can be received at a distance. She also shows how she guides clients from the head to the heart with simple daily tools, and what it means to regain your Mojoy. Wellness and business mindset go hand in hand here. This episode is for business owners and leaders who feel tired, stuck, or burned out and want a place to start with holistic healing.
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Bernie (00:24)
Question of the audience. What are the reasons you're stuck? Has nothing to do with your strategy and everything to do with your energy. A lot of driven people are doing all the right things and still feel like something is missing. today's guest has spent over 30 years helping people find
That missing piece. And it starts where most of us never think to look. LindaJoy Benn is a healer, trainer, and speaker with over 30 years of experience in the natural health and personal development world. She's the founder of the BENN Method Academy, a framework built around four pillars: balance, energy, nurture, and nourish. Her work helps people.
move from burnout, overwhelm, and disconnection into clarity, alignment, and a sense of real purpose. She calls that journey regaining your Mojoy. LindaJoy trained directly with the founder of Pellowah, A consciousness expanding healing practice
Back in 2004 as part of the very first group of teachers. She later introduced it to the United States in 2005. Today she travels from across North America, offering live experiences, workshops, and practitioner training to communities ready to grow. one thing more about LindaJoy. She has been to over 35 countries, and most of them before she turned 30. You can find her online at lindabenn.com.
Benn dot com and Linda is spelt L I N D A Ben is spelt B E N N dot com and her Instagram and LinkedIn is LindaJoy Benn.
LindaJoy, absolute pleasure to have you here today. All the smiles beaming from you. I know some of us can't see it if you're on the audio side, but that's what YouTube's for. What's your favorite quote?
LindaJoy (01:56)
Thank you so much for having me, Bernie. So wonderful to be here with you. A favorite quote it's like regain your Mojoy and let your heart shine wherever you go. And when you're in that state of mind and you're aligned with who you truly are.
Well, then you automatically are just plugged in with source and shining your heartlight. And it's interesting, Heartlight Energy used to be my business name and my corporation name. and when I when I moved to California in 2010, because my email address was linda at heartlightenergy.com, but because of my accent and
trying to spell my email over a the phone with customer service. It was very challenging with the vowels. So yeah. I changed it. So what that's the essence of what what I do.
Bernie (03:04)
So you've been in the space since nineteen ninety. Wha what kind of like you know, in in high school were you going, I think I'm gonna be a healer, you know, and what what brought you on this path? What gave you the light to go this way?
LindaJoy (03:17)
Well, in nineteen ninety I was diagnosed with cancer and I was very young and but I knew in my heart, in my soul, that there was a big world out there and I wanted to travel. And and even at five years old I still remember singing the song.
John Denver's song. I'm leaving on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again. Because I knew there was a big world out there. I grew up in a very small town in Australia, and traveling was definitely what I was guided to. Though I grew up in a very interesting
family dynamic which maybe tried to squash my light and and who I was and who I yeah that they tried very hard. So I was in a lot of emotional pain and suppressed it all. And it was in 1990 that I met a my first spiritual teacher
In San Jose, California, and he is the one that helped me to understand why I created the cancer and all the suppressed emotions I'd pushed down and the mind, body, spirit connection, and and how and who I was as a soul, what my purpose was, but
More importantly, why I chose the family in this lifetime. And because that was the question I kept asking. Why are they so nasty? Why am I ostracized? Why don't they understand me? Why am I don't feel safe? And and then understanding their role in my life.
just gave me a whole new perspective and outlook. And I was 21 at the time because he actually said, if you keep going down this path, you will not be here in a few years. And so this is why I'm on the holistic health and healing path and career and made a career because this is my job, you know, I I've worked for God.
and the universe and I'm just here to fulfill my mission, my soul's mission, and and shine my light, because in many other lifetimes I was persecuted. So that's why I'm here. And and helping a many, many other brothers and sisters along the way to re remember who they are as a soul.
Bernie (06:11)
you're a teacher back in two thousand and four. It's part of your process now. What is it? What what what's involved? What's behind what's behind that word, behind that name?
LindaJoy (06:21)
Well, Pellowah is an angelic word for a radical shift in consciousness because that's exactly what it does. It shifts consciousness, expands awareness, connects all 12 strains of DNA. And so that was in 2004. But prior to that, I was already operating my business, seeing one-to-one clients doing body work, energy work, and healing.
And it started with more the massage, then it morphed into more of the somatic healing. And I also learned Reiki back in the 90s as well. So I was incorporating and collecting lots of different tools. And when clients would come to me, they'd go, you know, this hurts, this hurts, this hurts. And when I was
Working on them, I mean they'd walk out feeling fantastic and you know pain-free, but then they'd come back the next time and they'd created something else. So that's when I was looking at the patterns and what was going on consciously that they kept creating these patterns in their body and
Creating pain in their body. And that's when I went much deeper. So when I met Katina, who is the founder of Pellowah, I went and had a reading with her. And she said, Look, I've just started teaching this new modality. And I've got a workshop in two weeks' time. Would you like to be part of that class? I just got an instant yes. And then
a couple of months later I did the teacher training because I s received a big uh-huh that wow, all these people are coming with pain in their body and illnesses and different diseases and stuff. What i it's like if when you can shift consciousness, well then the physical body will take care of itself.
And so I thought, right, I need to get this out into the world and help people to shift consciousness, then they will not have the pain in their body or the illness or disease. And that's what I've been doing for the last 22 years. But in the teacher training and going through that, you there's three different attunements.
And what I noticed personally for myself as well as all the different work I was doing with clients, it just took it to a whole nother level. My intuition just leaped forward in leaps and bounds. I was receiving very profound intuitive downloads. I went more into the somatic and the psychic surgery and medical intuitive.
And then I attracted many clients with major stuff, heart conditions, cancer, tumors, and all these diseases, and I'd work energetically on their body and then set them free. So Pellowah is another tool that I just added to my toolbox.
but the attunement is what really amplified and accelerated my spiritual growth as well as the work I was doing with others and empowering them to heal their own body and that is still something I teach today in all my programs, all my courses and and helping.
individuals to remember who they are as a soul and how powerful everyone is. So
Bernie (10:17)
When you're engaging a client and usually you know, if if someone is working away at their business, whatever the case might be, how do you if they're not
Obviously they're open to the idea, right? So that's that's part of part of it, because you can't force a horse to drink water, right?
LindaJoy (10:33)
Mm-hmm.
Bernie (10:34)
How do you get them to shift their mindset to go, okay, this the shifting the energy is the missing piece? How do you get them into that headspace? It'd be one thing going, yeah, it's not working. I'm you know, I'm I'm taking let's say I'm sore joints, whatever the case might be, migraines.
Yeah. How do I go from that to gotta do this? Here's LindaJoy. God bless her. She's here. But how do I get my how do I get myself in that same headspace that you're in?
LindaJoy (11:01)
So this is where my coaching comes in. And so I one-to-one private coaching, I find out specifically what's going on for the individual. And I gather all that information from everything that's going on in their physical body, their emotional body, energetically, spiritually, and also in their life. So
Someone's got a story. And so maybe they've they've married, divorced, or gone through significant emotional events. And all those events and possibly trauma is held in the body energetically. And then if they have any physical ailments,
any illness or disease or any pain in their body, I go to the root cause. And this is where we look at the pattern and the emotion and what's underneath the symptom. And this is how I work holistically and I've got many, many tools that I just
pull out whatever tool I need that's appropriate and priority at the time. And so a lot of people just come with, I've got this problem and I don't necessarily even talk about the Pellowah healing because that's just one of the tools. and I've got many, many different tools from, you know, hypnosis and
You know, NLP is just another tool. but a lot of my guidance is intuitive. And so when a client comes, I'm just tuning in and I have a gift to actually identify where the energy is blocked in their physical body as well as in their conscious mind, and then what the trauma is or
And and identify it where is it an old program pattern belief that's still running? and then that could be related to childhood conditioning or past lives, you know, because we're clearing right now a lot of ancestral patterns and trauma from hundreds, thousands of years.
So sometimes what we are experiencing in this lifetime may be from our lineage, both sides of our family.
Bernie (13:44)
How do you explain I I get what you're talking about? How do you get someone in the headspace? Because if if you've never thought of it before, right? It's like saying, if you've never seen or tasted ice cream, hi, here's some cold thing, here's something cold. It's it's almost like ice, but it's got milk in it, and but you've never experienced it before. So how do you get the person's head space into that going, these might be contributing factors?
Do is it just like this is a part of a background and you know, the the goal they're just feeling the pain or the feeling the lackluster in in whatever wherever the issue might be sitting for them. But how do you get them now to take it in? Because some of this might take some time to absorb in, right? It's sort of like, you know, I I remember going through high school math and going algebra, calculus. Yeah, yeah, that's a ticket. And for me it's like
Like you know, but you know, if you sit long enough and you work on something, right, you'll you'll get it. So how do you get them to achieve the results and where they might have, you know, the ramp up of understanding where this is all coming from may not be as present, but you know, the r you're looking for the results in the now.
LindaJoy (14:52)
And and and this is where all the tools and exercises that I teach, you know, in in different courses and programs is going from the head to the heart and embodying and practicing all those tools. So like you gave the example of algebra, well, it's like you have to keep practicing and keep doing the math and keep, you know, practicing until you perfect it.
That's the same with all the tools, whether it's breath work, whether it's meditation, whether it's grounding, and keep tuning in. And I do a lot of guided exercises to help people to just keep dropping from the head into the heart and and realigning and clearing each of our energy centers, which could be blocked.
And this is our also known as our chakras. And then working with the meridians, which is invisible lines running through our body, which is our life force energy. So I bring in the Eastern philosophy of Chinese medicine with the Western and intuitively I just bring lots of different tools.
because when somebody can personally feel it in their body, that's when they get the big aha. That's when the light bulb goes off and that's where they go, I'm home. I've just come home into my heart and I remember who I am as a soul. So I take a lot of people through guided journeys.
where they really drop into that deep place. And when you act actually experience it and feel it and embody it in your body, well then it's just reconnecting you to who you truly are, source energy, bringing that down through your body. And it's like we're all connected to source. When did we decide or believe that we were separate?
And so again, working with the different beliefs. So this is where the embodiment tools and exercises that I I teach and they're customized for each individual.
Bernie (17:20)
So the BENN Method, what's the story behind that? I I I see balance, energy, nurture, and nourish as as components. So what is the BENN Method? Yeah, these those are the components, but like how does that all kind of interleave? Is is that the all the the grand overarching concept of what you just talked about, or is it are there is more depth to it than that?
LindaJoy (17:40)
There's a lot of depth to it. and thank you for asking. because the the BENN Method is my legacy that I'm leaving all my brothers and sisters when I fly off this playground. So when clients were coming for body work and energy work and clearing.
And because I mixed so many different things together, they kept saying, my god, what is this? Because it was way more than massage. And and I just went, it's the Benn technique, you know, and I just made that up in the moment. but also I created like my five R's back then over.
20 years ago of release, realign, restore, rebalance, and re-energize. Because I was trying to articulate and explain to people how I'm different from your average massage therapist. So then I created a course and used that as the foundation for my coaching. And
and and also different workshops, etc. But I moved to California in 2010. Now I when I moved countries, I it's like I would just put myself out there on the leading edge, really taking a risk, didn't know anybody, and but I felt so fearless.
And so unstoppable that it's like, yep, give everything away, leave Australia, and move to California and start my business all over again. So, because there was, well, remember 2008, the GFC, America really got affected. And so a lot of people were living in fear, uncertainty.
there was a lot of unknowns, people were losing their houses. And so I came and they thought I was crazy and I'd go, look, I brought the Aussie philosophy of no worries, mate, like everything's gonna be all right, just trust. And so in 2010, when I moved to California and I lived in California for seven years, I met a woman at a networking event.
And she, and this is another experience that my soul went through because it was a big learning for me. So she was she said to me, my god, your light is so bright, I'm just mesmerized and staring at you from the other side of the room. And I thought, that's nice. and
I didn't think anything of it. And I, you know, never knew anyone at the time. And and so meeting new people, making new friends, where do I belong, who's my network, etc. And she befriended me and always wanted to know what I was doing, where I was going, and keep inviting herself.
And I didn't realize that's a red flag and stalking is a red flag. And I didn't understand narcissism. She described herself as a spiritual teacher and international energy healer, worker, whatever. But over time, and this was a big learning, and and I just want to preface, I completely forgive her. So what
It was a soul contract that she would do what she did for me, for my soul to learn from this experience. So after five years, she says, Wow, you came to America with so much light, but your light's gone out. But and I'm going, Whoa, has it? Anyway, she went, but don't worry. I've got a program and if you pay me thousands of dollars, I'll help you.
And then I gave my power away to her and believed everything that she said, but I didn't realize that she was feeding off me all that time because anytime I'd feel a bit tired, it's like, huh, you know, what what's going on? And and I just thought, you know, exhaustion, you pushing myself too much, and I'd I was naive. Then she invited me to a plant medicine ceremony.
And that's where, you know, you drink the medicine and you surrender your soul. After that experience, my soul was shattered, like a glass table, completely shattered, little splinters. I and she advised me I should go back to Australia, and which I did. But in that time of transition and moving back to Australia, and after that.
experience, I felt cut off. Like, where's where's my guidance? Where's you know, I wasn't the same person. I went, Well, if I'm not here to share my gifts, what's the point of being here? And then I just spiraled down and I hit rock bottom. And I was this close to leaving and it was a an ex a phone call,
with a trauma therapist. So I was having a a a trauma therapy phone call and she said to me, Do you know how much Spirit loves you? And in that moment I got a lightning bolt of unconditional love and light through my body that shook me so much that and I just started sobbing. And I'd never experienced that before.
And that was the turning point. And so in that moment I went, okay, because I was at rock bottom. I was leaving. Like when when your brain shut down, your liver's only functioning at thirty eight percent. You got you can't get off the couch. I mean, I thought it was just burnout. but I was
not in a good way when every organ and system was shutting down and I wasn't sleeping. So that's when I decided, okay, well, what do I need to heal my body? I take full responsibility. Just please show me, guide me, what do I and that's when the BENN Method came in of balance, energy, nurture and nourish.
And that they're the four pillars and and then in the training program, and I'm still developing it because I'm still adding so much depth to make this a train the trainer program for practitioners to go out and share it with their clients. because those four pillars are critical and the nurture and the nourish is all connected to healing your inner child.
and and nurturing and nourishing you as a soul. So it's not just about what you eat and drink and put into your body. It's so much more with who you surround yourself with than are they nurturing and nourishing your mind and and what are you listening to and all of these things affect your energy.
But it's like you've got to look at what's imbalanced in your life. And this is really taking an honest, big picture view of looking at everything that you do in your life, physically, emotionally, mentally, energetically, and spiritually, is it balanced? And then we correct. And and it's constant self-correction every day.
And anything that's out of balance, and if you keep i ignoring the messages, well that's what leads to either burnout or other illnesses or people get sick or whatever the ailment is, or things just don't flow because you're out of alignment with your higher self and out of alignment with
your purpose and your soul's mission. So it's all about coming back into alignment with who you truly are and then living your true authentic life, making choices and decisions based on what lights you up, what brings you joy, and making those choices and decisions from your heart space or your
your gut brain because I talk about the three brains, your head, your heart and your gut. So it's like that's the alignment that I go much deeper into. And then all the tools underneath that.
Bernie (26:41)
When you're talking to an owner, cause a lot of some sometimes much like saving money, right? Some people go, I'll do that one day. I'll get to it. And so sometimes you want to seed the right idea at the right time. Wellness is part of it. Like, you know, if you're if you're into exercise, you know that you
I think I'll do the Boston Marathon and tomorrow I'll do maybe a click and I'm ready for it next week. Ain't gonna happen. Well, maybe it can, but yeah, yeah, the likelihood it's not it's not in your favor. How do you get people to start paying attention to the wellness piece? Because I think from base what you're telling me, is that you know, it it it's a journey, you know, you're you had a journey to get there.
You had you had you ran into a person was like, not such a a healthy c or bad apple, like or even wrong flavor, right? But it's part of the journey. How do you get people to start realizing, you know, start the wellness is key.
LindaJoy (27:35)
Well, and it's education. This is where and and there's so much online now about the foods that you put into your body. And and there's a lot of foods that are poisoned to your body. And so when someone is aware of, yeah, this is full of sugar or caffeine or preservatives or what are all these numbers mean?
'Cause I mean I've always read labels and I was shocked at the American diet when I first came to America in nineteen ninety. It's like, but people eat this stuff. And and this is what's coming out right now with more exposure, more transparency.
More education and people are realizing all this GMO food and everything that they're telling us, it's just not healthy. So when there's physical ailments, and some people they're just in that old paradigm and they're thinking, and they're just stuck eating the same things. So if they're aware.
And this is where the physical body is constantly giving you messages because the body is the barometer of the soul. So if there is pain in your body, well, maybe look at that pain. Is it inflammation? What are the foods that are causing inflammation? What's the emotions that's causing that inflammation or arthritis? I'm still holding on to anger or resentment or
And and this is where the forgiveness comes in. It's like, well, who am I angry with? Or or maybe it's a past relationship and they betrayed you. I mean, this is where we go much deeper and and then look at what's the underlying energy and emotion and the root cause of why they feel the way they do. And so it all starts with awareness.
And then educating them. And this is where my coaching and all the courses and programs is step by step and just keep practicing and doing these things on a daily basis and bit by bit you the power to heal your own body. And I've said this for years. In 10 years' time, there will not be any illness or disease. Because when you're full of light and full of love.
Disease cannot survive in body that's full of love and light, vibrating at a high vibration and frequency. It just does not work. So, this is where the consciousness part comes in. And when you truly upgrade your conscious human operating system, you make clear choices and decisions for your highest good and destiny.
And you see the old programs and the manipulation and the control of the external world and it's like, yeah, I just doesn't feel true anymore. I'm not believing, you know, that this is the American diet and this is what will help me. Because why do people keep going to doctors and giving their power away and just they're just medicated and they keep numbing out?
on all this medication and then all the medication contradicts each other and then they leave the planet not knowing, you know, why they're so sick. But this is where when you educate people to take responsibility for their own health and their own well being and stop giving away their power to other people, well then they can take charge of
their health and their wellness and stand in their power. And and I mean all doctors and the medical profession, they're great, especially if you break a leg or in a car accident, fantastic. But for day-to-day health ailments, no, you have the power to heal your own body. And and I've been working with clients for decades.
And anything that they come in with, this is what I empower them to understand. Because I've had clients come and saying, I've went to a a physio, you know, for the last 12 months and a chiropractor for the last 12 months to get rid of my pain. And and after one session, it's like I've
Pain gone. Next. So this is where you take charge and does it feel good? And when you make those choices and decisions, you know, and this is where it's like even pharmaceuticals and medication, I do not touch it. I don't even take a headache tablet. So I I look at okay if
I mean, I rarely I don't get headaches, but if I'm feeling off, it's like, okay, where is the energy stuck in my body? And it's only energy. So energy is and the emotion moving out. So it's like, okay, I can just move this out of my body. And and that's the awareness. So it comes back to
education and this is why I created all my programs and online courses now, as well as I do work with one-to-one coaching clients, though the the courses are better because then I can help more people because of my time.
Bernie (33:23)
Mojoy as opposed to Mojo.
Tell me about Mojoy.
LindaJoy (33:29)
Mo Mojoy, well my middle name is Joy, and Joy is my purpose for being here. And and that's when I was guided to incorporate it into my name. I I at for a short time I did drop the the Linda and just go with joy, but then no one could find me or you know, so it's like combine them because Mojoy is
Re you know, because everyone knows what mojo away is. And so when you get your mojo, it's like, I feel good. Whereas when you regain your Mojoy then you jump out of bed and go, Wow, I feel fantastic, I love my life, I have the best life, and you regain your Mojoy because joy on if you know the consciousness scale, the emotional scale of
All the different vibrations and frequencies, love, peace, and joy is high vibration. So if you can sustain that and maintain that on a daily basis, well, then you're gonna be joyful and be high vibration. And then that's another indication because everything always works out for you, and you are in alignment with.
your higher self with what you came here to be and do and have on this earth and and also attract other like-minded souls to actually all vibrate together and so that's where it's like when you're vibrating at a high frequency you'll attract others that are in resonance with you
This is where the entrainment comes in. And then recognizing anytime you drop into fear or anger or shame or guilt, it's like, whoa, what thoughts am I thinking? Because thoughts become things and doesn't feel good. It's not about avoiding them, but acknowledge it that when you spiral down, it's like, stop, stop that cycle. It's like an addiction.
You know, it's breaking that cycle. so you don't keep repeating it. And that's what with this great awakening that we're experiencing here on earth, everyone's going, whoa, I'm thinking different. yeah, the veil is lifted. We're no longer dumbed down and numbing out with all the old control patterns and manipulation and the programming from the past. It it's
Really waking up consciously and being aware of who you are, why you're here, and what is the life that you choose to live. And that's the Mojoy.
Bernie (36:25)
So you have your website is available. It's obviously global.
If someone wants to follow up on the Pellowah course, the sessions or other elements, they just go and visit your lindabenn dot com website then and find out about other events
LindaJoy (36:39)
Absolutely. Yeah. Everything's on the website. And the events, the online events, the Pellowah healing can be done by distance. So it doesn't matter which country you're in, it works exactly the same. And when you receive it, you just lay down in a quiet place, undisturbed, no distractions, where it's quiet for an hour.
And that's when you receive the energy. And it's exactly the same as if we were in front of each other. And so many testimonies from people. and it actually gets stronger as time goes on. And the difference between Pellowah and Reiki is Pellowah is 100% pure energy direct from source. It's not channeled through the practitioner.
And whereas all other healings, it comes from source, down through their filters, down through whatever they're processing or going through. And sometimes, sometimes I'm just warning people, it can be contaminated. And I'm sure we've all had experiences where different people have said things or I saw this or
And that influences you. So if you don't know who you are as a soul and you're influenced by what someone else tells you and you just believe them, well, that could be a negative. And I've got many, many stories of people where they've given their power away to practitioners, healers, therapists, and taken on. And it's like, no, what is your truth? So this is why I I
Like the Pellowah because it is 100% pure. And if the ego of the practitioner comes in, it'll stop. So this is you keep 100% pure energy, and it's like a glass cylinder direct from source, and over the body, it's going. And then as a practitioner, we just hold the space and we're
being directed by where to move, where to have our hands, and but we're not receiving any of it. So we don't get the v visuals or the downloads or the messages for the person. It's between the person on the table receiving and source.
Bernie (39:04)
So folks, if you've listened to this conversation and it's it's landed well with you and you want to reach out to LindaJoy, go to lindabenn.com. That's L-I-N-D-A-B-E-N-N dot com to learn more about her work. And she's has some free experiences. And if you're having burnout, this might be a hint to come into that space. I would also like to say thank you to Tony Gyenis of
Love Higher Self for introducing us today. Tony, we appreciate you. And so remember, LindaJoy is out there. She can help you. she's traveling through different countries, but her website is the way to find her. check out our website, knack4business.com. That's K-N-A-C-K, the number 4 business.com, to reach us. Use our chat bot to find out about other episodes or explore our guest lineup or book a call.
LindaJoy (39:54)
Thank you.